The following is my response to a comment from Rentap to RPK, who was of opinion that you need a guru to learn about the Quran, as opposed to that of RPK
Rentap wrote:
[Okay, I may have a well-stocked library with hundreds of books, I may have the entire 11 volumes of Hamka’s Tafsiran al-Quran, I may have all nine volumes of Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, and I may have six different English Language translations of the Quran. But that is still not enough.]
Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.
Raja Petra wrote:
Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.
Ah, my dear Rentap, that is just the thing. I DO read medical books and know that in the first 40 mins of jogging (at 10 kph speed) I burn my sugar and after 40 mins I begin to burn fat. By 2 hours of jogging I eat a Mars Bar which I carry in my pouch to replenish my sugar to allow me the energy to continue until 5 hours (my time for a Full Marathon). I also drink 100Plus every 30 mins to replenish my salts which I lose through the sweat as drinking only water replaces the fluid without replacing the salts.
The night before the Marathon I eat plenty of rice for the carbohydrates but take no food before the run since it takes my body 2 hours to digest solid food. I take plenty of fluids 30 mins before the run since it takes my body 20 mins to absorb liquids.
Yes, I DO read medical books and learn and apply what I learn but I NEVER call myself a doctor or perform brain surgery on my friends and family. And I bet you can't run from Kuala Terengganu to Kuala Lumpur in 48 hours or cycle from the Perlis/Thai border to the JB-Singapore Causeway in 36 hours like I did at age 40 and 45 respectively. (But that is another story for another time).
Oh, and one more thing, I also NEVER call myself an ulama or religious scholar, if that is what you are implying.
FrenchFriedTacos wrote:
Note the main subject is OPINION not performing brain surgery.
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You can't blame folks like Rentap and his ilk for their lack of sophistication in differentiating between the two. After all, they are in serious need of reconstructive brain surgery themselves.
But this is not the first time, and will also not be the last time, we have seen such pea-brained excuses by these kinds to stifle the opinions of others.
arion2000 wrote:
Bad analogy here, a medical book is for specialised trainer. Allah on the other hand, wants everyone to know him, so he would want you to find him, by giving opinions and discuss more about him. Not just baca dan hafal. Mesti tanya soalan.
farouk wrote:
Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.
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Let me raise some points with you:
1. How do you know the medical book is accurate. If I read a medical book written in the middle ages, I'd be 'leeching' myself for every ailment! No medical book is perfect.
2. How do you know doctors are perfect? My Uncle, an autodidact in the medical field, has questioned his various doctors using his Merick's Guide and found their diagnosis to be indefensible.
The only way to verify anything is through experience. Doctor's qualifications mean nothing if they kill you.
So too can you have PhD's from Madinah, al-azhar or UIA or whatever. But if you teach Islam contrary to what Rasulullah taught, you're wrong.
cruzeiro wrote:
Dear Rentap,
"It is in the uncompromisingness with which dogma is held and not in the dogma, or want of dogma, that the danger lies."
-Samuel Butler, The Way Of All Flesh
For you to draw a parallel between medical knowledge and dogma is logical, but inaccurate.
It must be borne in mind that it is possible that laymen know more than some doctors in specific areas of speciality.
You do not need a medical degree to have accurate medical opinion. Nor do you need all the medical knowledge to do an operation. I do know of medical assistants who actually guide and teach doctors on various things.
Moreover no doctor can claim that he has all the answers.
Having said that, it must be remembered that Medical knowledge lacks the element of "spirituality" for which there is no University curriculum or "guru".
I recollect very clearly what a wise man once said -
He said, "Do you think you will find God when you come to church regularly? Or is it when you say your prayers? Or is it when you do 'penance' by fasting? No, my man! Go into the world, face the challenges in life, do good to others - then you will find God! The temples, mosques, churches and synagogues are only for fellowship and for the weak who need support. You on the other hand are made for greater things ......"
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26/06 21:23:48
Just as the above was ending,
josh - a participant in the discussion on MT, had fired an uncouth salvo at "anon" who had praised RPK on the article.
This guy, josh, is a real weirdo - he seems to enjoy "picking fights" on the web! The last time, he actually threatened me after he had misconstrued what I had written - he is so "dense", that no amount of explanation spelled out made a difference.
He got so upset with the word "towelhead" (though is was in reference to the ignorant guys who advertise Islamic religiosity with a turban which isn't a religious requirement in Islam)- apparently he is a Punjabi and has a turban - so he claims that this term is derogatory to him exclusively!
The following was the "retribution" he got from anon and me ....
anon wrote:
Dear RPK,
Yet another masterpiece. This article I believe sums up not just what you write but me and others as well.
When we write on certain issues, there will always be some on the defensive. But that is precisely what posts are all about, to bring out those moles living in mudholes.
Living in mudholes is one thing but living in twisted mudholes with guilt whimsical, weird and narcissist dogma is another.
Keep up the good work Pete.
Cheers.
26/06 17:25:23
josh wrote:
anon =
qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
26/06 18:07:18
anon wrote:
josh wrote:
anon =
qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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I'm glad to know I hit the nail on the head. You must be one of those mudhole moles.
You are the kind of pathetic pariahs that I am talking about. You and RPK are poles apart. That is what I am trying to say here and you have proven it.
josh wrote:
anon =
qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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I'm glad to know I hit the nail on the head. You must be one of those mud-hole moles.
You are the kind of pathetic pariahs that I am talking about. You and RPK are poles apart. That is what I am trying to say here and you have proven it.
If someone writes a good article, I acknowledge it. I have done that to a few other people who write well AND with substance in their articles. But you choose to see the negative side of everything.
Various techniques and rhythms? Listen shithead, either the article is good or not good or perhaps somewhere in between. So, one does not have to use ‘various techniques’ to say so.
You have overshadowed OU. You have just revealed what is in your head …. if there is any. Garbage in garbage out.
If you have nothing else to say other than crap, I would give you some advice …. Shut the fcuk up you damn pusillanimous reprobate.
People like you make want to puke. You seem to have this obsession with licking balls. Did your friends steer clear of you because you licked their balls dry? I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.
Now you’re not even 'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive. Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.
You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant.
26/06 21:39:23
anon wrote:
To all,
Sorry guys, I am in a bad mood and just wanted to read some articles and comment but when I saw this, I guess my anger got the better of me.
But I certainly am not retracting what I said.
Cheers.
26/06 21:42:41
cruzeiro wrote:
woooh anon,
Reign it in man!
Josh is the guy who freaked out and threatened me for mentioning the word "towelhead" (he claims to be the Punjab variant)..... now you called him shithead!
Don't flatter him lah .....
26/06 21:47:02
anon wrote:
cruz,
LOL. If that prick claims to be the Punjab variant, then you are indeed spot on .... he must be a towelhead .... only difference is he must be a dickhead towelhead.
It's okay lah, let me flatter him more.
People like him adore flattery.
This mongrel must be an outcast in the Punjabi society. Must be living in seclusion, ostracized by his own community.
Cheers.
26/06 22:14:31
josh wrote:
fellow bastard( anon),
I made a simple comment, just a personal observation of what happening , here is what the replies I got from u,
pathetic pariahs
shithead
revealed what is in your head …. if there is any. Garbage in garbage out.
crap,
Shut the fcuk up
damn pusillanimous reprobate
People like you make want to puke.
obsession with licking balls( who was ball lickin again?)(it seems he's
licked their balls dry?
I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.
---wow, ur vry imaginative, reminds me of sum1----
'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive.
Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.
You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant
-----dunno where all this came from?---
and certainly, ur proud of what u said
''But I certainly am not retracting what I said.''
repeat that to ur mom, I guess she'll be proud too...
'''dickhead towelhead.
This mongrel must be an outcast in the society. Must be living in seclusion, ostracized by his own community.''''
anon, remember. sometime back, u wrote an aticle about some crap.... then I commented something about me
'feeling pretty fucked up after reading, and u r a pretty fcked up guy'
It is something about my sixth sense where I can read ppl very easily, and can get to the the 'inner-self of someone without even actually knowing much abt that someone'... I couldn't explain that that time, but my sixth sense was right nevertheless, u've shown ur true self now...I think u have the liberty now to judge ur ownself..u've said everything, there is nothing much left for me to say about you.
anothr thing, I never mentioned and hinted anything abt ur race and background etc... that was what u did, nt me, let me ask u, whos the racist here?
and about me, i'm no one... just less than 2 decades old...
calling me a pariah?... ok fine, its ur opinion, but then glance through ur comments again and compare it with mine....if i'm a pariah, ur then an ultra-pariah
but I think, culturally its obvious who is the pariah here, but that is irrelevant to me...
are u the right person to be talking about race, religion, culture. etc?...like I told u judge urself
ps-anger is no defense for a man's character
27/06 07:39:04
anon wrote:
Gosh josh,
fellow bastard( anon),
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You are a bastard, don’t include me in your category.
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simple comment, just a personal observation
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Hey dickhead, you wrote: josh wrote:
anon =
qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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That is your version of SIMPLE comment? Just a personal observation?
You retard, that’s a personal attack fool. Don’t you know the difference? What a mutt.
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and certainly, ur proud of what u said
''But I certainly am not retracting what I said.''
repeat that to ur mom, I guess she'll be proud too...
'''dickhead towelhead.
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Now you have stooped even lower, your head in in the abyss dickhead or should I say towel head.
You have resorted to bringing in mothers!
Remove that towel on your thick skull and you might just see some semblance of your crap that you write.
Have you been deprived? You poor soul, your momma must have kicked you in your arse when you were trying to lick her too. One too many she must have said. Or perhaps she liked it, who knows.
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It is something about my sixth sense where I can read ppl very easily, and can get to the the 'inner-self of someone without even actually knowing much abt that someone'...
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Now we have an licker with sixth sense. Take your ‘sixth’ sense and shove it up your arse because that’s where it came from. You failed to 'read people' miserably.
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and about me, i'm no one... just less than 2 decades old...
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That says all about you doesn’t it? Listen, you juvenile spoilt brat, go to your room and study for your exams. And take that pacifier out of your mouth. That is the root of your problems.
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ps-anger is no defense for a man's character
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You caught me at the wrong time buddy. Otherwise I may have let you go seeing that what you wrote is equivalent to that of a juvenile delinquent.
You low-life licker. Go to your room!
27/06 10:14:07
cruzeiro wrote:
anon,
This guy has a sixth-sense! LOL
I'm really surprised by his "courteous" reply ..... the last he wanted a fight!
From the looks of it, that lashing that you dished out, had the desired effect on this conceited kid.
Civility is misconstrued as a weakness by this brat.
He probably needs a "whipping" each time he misbehaves!
Strange that he would call himself a bastard, though ......
27/06 10:34:35
josh wrote:
anon,u picked and choose only parts of my article to reply
age does not limit wisdom...if ur words reflect ur actions, pity ur kids, they will be living a rotten life
i'm not going to 'layan' u further...i've proven my point, adios
27/06 10:35:17
josh wrote:
dear RPK,
pls attach anon's comments with his article. MT readers deserve to know the other side of him.
27/06 10:41:37
anon wrote:
josh wrote:
anon,u picked and choose only parts of my article to reply
age does not limit wisdom...if ur words reflect ur actions, pity ur kids, they will be living a rotten life
i'm not going to 'layan' u further...i've proven my point, adios
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Yeah run like the pariah dog that you are you little twirp.
Don't you listen to good advice?
I gave you one .... take that pacifier out of your mouth then you might just grow up and start thinking more maturely. For you it will take a lot of time but have patience. And don't be too hard on yourself too. Calling yourself a bastard will not get you anywhere dude.
Oh, and do not be delusioned by that so-called sixth sense that you claim to have. You are delusional. Get out of it fast before you really believe it and cause problems for others.
What a moronic juvenile.
27/06 10:42:34
anon wrote:
josh wrote:
dear RPK,
pls attach anon's comments with his article. MT readers deserve to know the other side of him.
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LOL What a kid. Then again, your 'sixth' sense must have told you that.
Listen boy, your 'sixth' sense is just your fantasy and the sooner you come out of it, the better it will be for all of us.
Tuning on to Disney Channel too many times.
27/06 10:47:09
cruzeiro wrote:
anon,
I think I'll put up his comment (calling himself a bastard and claiming he has 6th sense) on my blog, so that I can have a good laugh at this moron when I feel down!
His old comments, I don't seem to be able to find ..... he must've deleted them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he deletes these too.
27/06 10:51:39
anon wrote:
hey josh,
From slandering mother to now kids.
You have a huge problems dude.
If you, your mother and your kids ( perhaps you married too soon ) are rotten to the core, doesn't mean it's the same with the others.
Now run along and watch more fantasy stories.
27/06 10:52:44
anon wrote:
cruz,
what a nincompoop he is. Simple comments, observations he says. LOL Writes scandalous remarks, attacks mothers, now kids and runs away.
That's what I should do too, when I am annoyed, just look at his replies and have a good laugh.
Cheers.
27/06 10:55:57
josh wrote:
1.If you have nothing else to say other than crap, I would give you some advice …. Shut the fcuk up you damn pusillanimous reprobate.
2.People like you make want to puke. You seem to have this obsession with licking balls. Did your friends steer clear of you because you licked their balls dry? I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.
3.Now you’re not even 'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive. Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.
4.You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant.You poor soul, your momma must have kicked you in your arse when you were trying to lick her too. One too many she must have said. Or perhaps she liked it, who knows.
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Dear MT readers,
I hav been accused of watchin Disney Channel because i talked about 'six sense'. This guy here, Mr.Anon, said the above. Can anyone please give me an idea of what channel has he been watching all the time?
27/06 10:56:02
josh wrote:
The reason why I deleted my comments is because I have the courtesy of not hijacking others blog with irrelevant materials
27/06 11:00:53
cruzeiro wrote:
Anon,
Just whip him, buddy - him and his shit sense - whop 'em till his dickhead aches, and he learns to think with his real head.
27/06 11:03:44
Being Human wrote:
Anon, josh,
Take a break lah.
Take some deep breaths, shift your attention to the ceiling and count to 10. seriously..
No point wasting energy engaging in those types of childish filth.
At the end of the day, it will only backfire on yourself, emotionally, physiologically and your health.
27/06 11:12:04
teo siew chin wrote:
Being Human - the full quote is 'have a break, have a kit-kat' hahahaha and Cruzeiro has run out of kit-kat today!!
27/06 11:18:27
cruzeiro wrote:
Okay teo,
you got me there. forgot about kit-kat after reading about some self-proclaimed bastard & towelhead's shit sense!
anon, have a kit-kat (I'll have one too)!
27/06 11:22:35
teo siew chin wrote:
OK LET'S ALL ADJOURN FOR A KIT-KAT!!! no, 2 kit-kats.
27/06 11:25:52
josh wrote:
Sometimes I wonder, is this a political blog, or Malaysian Gay forum masked as a political blog.
The title of the article has arsehole in it, in every other comment is directly or indirectly related to the arsehole e.g. how the Arabs wash their arsehole with sand. People are being racist and flaming each other with their arsehole. And lastly, some people has substituted their brains with their arseholes.
Before this it was freeanwar.com..... no coincidence i guess
Malaysian men here, especially the aged ones, have a very sad,angry life... they beat up small boys(looks like some of them enjoy doing it) and they like arseholes.....
luckily, i'm nt in that category
ps- dear RPK, some Malaysian brothers in mamakspecial.com has opened a thread about the publicity they are getting here. Some of them wants you to share with them some anal-techniques. They think that since you are quite closely linked with Mr.Anwar, you should be highly experienced. I havent checked the site for a long time, I suggest you give them some tips..
27/06 11:36:38
josh wrote:
i think anon is a lady...
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i'll vomitt.. even my dog wouldnt want it
27/06 11:38:08
anon wrote:
cruz,
Ok lah, I think I'll have a kit-kat too, though I don't need one.
No point talking to juvenile shitheads. Sheer waste of energy and time.
Poor kid is trying so hard to gain sympathy with readers in here. LOL
Ok, teo, we shall adjourn for a couple of kit-kats.
LOL
Cheers.
27/06 11:42:07
josh wrote:
they are die hard Mjackson fans
anon=phedophile=cruzeiro
27/06 11:45:52
josh wrote:
cruzeiro,
with some of my 'connected' friends I'm trying my best to locate you...
does the state NS have anything to do with u?
27/06 11:49:36
anon wrote:
Aiyaa,
This mongrel has started his crap again.
josh wrote:
i think anon is a lady...
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i'll vomitt.. even my dog wouldnt want it
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Of course you'll vomit boy. You go for only guys. Your dog must be exhausted with your constant cruising around it's behind. LOL
Boy, I told you to study but you didn't. Now you have all your spelling wrong. Silly boy.
Hey cruz,
we better be behave lah. This kid has some 'connections' LOL
The 'connected' friends are those he rammed from behind.
Okay, okay, I'll have a double kit-kat. Maybe triple as this punk kid will start his tautological tantrums again.
I suggest you do the same cruz. LOL
27/06 11:59:01
anon wrote:
Sometimes I wonder, is this a political blog, or Malaysian Gay forum masked as a political blog.
ps- dear RPK, Some of them wants you to share with them some anal-techniques. They think that since you are quite closely linked with Mr.Anwar, you should be highly experienced.
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Whoa, now this shithead scum is getting out of hand.
No respect for anyone, even the owner of this site.
How did this kid creep into this site baffles me.
I think cruz has a stockpile kit-kats. Pass me some cruz. LOL
27/06 12:11:48
cruzeiro wrote:
RPK wrote,
"Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one"
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Anon,
I think from the opinions expressed by "some people", in MY opinion, the above statement should be rephrased - "Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one. But the ones who think they have 'sixth sense' and make threats, have two - extra large!"
LOL!
27/06 12:25:12
josh wrote:
LAME
27/06 12:33:44
anon wrote:
cruz,
LOL I shall rephrase that .... XXXL. LOL
But I think he made a blunder by defaming RPK in his own blog. There's a mutt for you.
An XXXL mutt.
Cheers.
27/06 12:36:25
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