Wednesday, 27 June 2007

26/06: Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one



The following is my response to a comment from Rentap to RPK, who was of opinion that you need a guru to learn about the Quran, as opposed to that of RPK

Rentap wrote:

RPK,

[Okay, I may have a well-stocked library with hundreds of books, I may have the entire 11 volumes of Hamka’s Tafsiran al-Quran, I may have all nine volumes of Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, and I may have six different English Language translations of the Quran. But that is still not enough.]

Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.
26/06 15:37:27



Raja Petra wrote:

Rentap wrote:
Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.

Ah, my dear Rentap, that is just the thing. I DO read medical books and know that in the first 40 mins of jogging (at 10 kph speed) I burn my sugar and after 40 mins I begin to burn fat. By 2 hours of jogging I eat a Mars Bar which I carry in my pouch to replenish my sugar to allow me the energy to continue until 5 hours (my time for a Full Marathon). I also drink 100Plus every 30 mins to replenish my salts which I lose through the sweat as drinking only water replaces the fluid without replacing the salts.

The night before the Marathon I eat plenty of rice for the carbohydrates but take no food before the run since it takes my body 2 hours to digest solid food. I take plenty of fluids 30 mins before the run since it takes my body 20 mins to absorb liquids.

Yes, I DO read medical books and learn and apply what I learn but I NEVER call myself a doctor or perform brain surgery on my friends and family. And I bet you can't run from Kuala Terengganu to Kuala Lumpur in 48 hours or cycle from the Perlis/Thai border to the JB-Singapore Causeway in 36 hours like I did at age 40 and 45 respectively. (But that is another story for another time).

Oh, and one more thing, I also NEVER call myself an ulama or religious scholar, if that is what you are implying.
26/06 16:15:42




FrenchFriedTacos wrote:

Being Human said:
Note the main subject is OPINION not performing brain surgery.
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You can't blame folks like Rentap and his ilk for their lack of sophistication in differentiating between the two. After all, they are in serious need of reconstructive brain surgery themselves.

But this is not the first time, and will also not be the last time, we have seen such pea-brained excuses by these kinds to stifle the opinions of others.

arion2000 wrote:

"Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor. " By Rentap

Bad analogy here, a medical book is for specialised trainer. Allah on the other hand, wants everyone to know him, so he would want you to find him, by giving opinions and discuss more about him. Not just baca dan hafal. Mesti tanya soalan.
26/06 18:26:48

farouk wrote:

Rentap wrote:
Okay, get hold of a medical book, read through and then try calling yourself a Doctor.
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Let me raise some points with you:

1. How do you know the medical book is accurate. If I read a medical book written in the middle ages, I'd be 'leeching' myself for every ailment! No medical book is perfect.

2. How do you know doctors are perfect? My Uncle, an autodidact in the medical field, has questioned his various doctors using his Merick's Guide and found their diagnosis to be indefensible.

The only way to verify anything is through experience. Doctor's qualifications mean nothing if they kill you.

So too can you have PhD's from Madinah, al-azhar or UIA or whatever. But if you teach Islam contrary to what Rasulullah taught, you're wrong.
26/06 18:30:00


cruzeiro wrote:

Dear Rentap,
"It is in the uncompromisingness with which dogma is held and not in the dogma, or want of dogma, that the danger lies."
-Samuel Butler, The Way Of All Flesh

For you to draw a parallel between medical knowledge and dogma is logical, but inaccurate.

It must be borne in mind that it is possible that laymen know more than some doctors in specific areas of speciality.
You do not need a medical degree to have accurate medical opinion. Nor do you need all the medical knowledge to do an operation. I do know of medical assistants who actually guide and teach doctors on various things.
Moreover no doctor can claim that he has all the answers.

Having said that, it must be remembered that Medical knowledge lacks the element of "spirituality" for which there is no University curriculum or "guru".

I recollect very clearly what a wise man once said -
He said, "Do you think you will find God when you come to church regularly? Or is it when you say your prayers? Or is it when you do 'penance' by fasting? No, my man! Go into the world, face the challenges in life, do good to others - then you will find God! The temples, mosques, churches and synagogues are only for fellowship and for the weak who need support. You on the other hand are made for greater things ......"

http://cruzinthots.blogspot...

26/06 21:23:48



Just as the above was ending,
josh - a participant in the discussion on MT, had fired an uncouth salvo at "anon" who had praised RPK on the article.

This guy, josh, is a real weirdo - he seems to enjoy "picking fights" on the web! The last time, he actually threatened me after he had misconstrued what I had written - he is so "dense", that no amount of explanation spelled out made a difference.

He got so upset with the word "towelhead" (though is was in reference to the ignorant guys who advertise Islamic religiosity with a turban which isn't a religious requirement in Islam)- apparently he is a Punjabi and has a turban - so he claims that this term is derogatory to him exclusively!

The following was the "retribution" he got from anon and me ....

anon wrote:

Dear RPK,

Yet another masterpiece. This article I believe sums up not just what you write but me and others as well.

When we write on certain issues, there will always be some on the defensive. But that is precisely what posts are all about, to bring out those moles living in mudholes.

Living in mudholes is one thing but living in twisted mudholes with guilt whimsical, weird and narcissist dogma is another.

Keep up the good work Pete.

Cheers.

26/06 17:25:23


josh wrote:

anon =

qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms

26/06 18:07:18


anon wrote:

josh wrote:
anon =

qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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I'm glad to know I hit the nail on the head. You must be one of those mudhole moles.

You are the kind of pathetic pariahs that I am talking about. You and RPK are poles apart. That is what I am trying to say here and you have proven it.

josh wrote:
anon =

qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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I'm glad to know I hit the nail on the head. You must be one of those mud-hole moles.

You are the kind of pathetic pariahs that I am talking about. You and RPK are poles apart. That is what I am trying to say here and you have proven it.

If someone writes a good article, I acknowledge it. I have done that to a few other people who write well AND with substance in their articles. But you choose to see the negative side of everything.

Various techniques and rhythms? Listen shithead, either the article is good or not good or perhaps somewhere in between. So, one does not have to use ‘various techniques’ to say so.

You have overshadowed OU. You have just revealed what is in your head …. if there is any. Garbage in garbage out.

If you have nothing else to say other than crap, I would give you some advice …. Shut the fcuk up you damn pusillanimous reprobate.

People like you make want to puke. You seem to have this obsession with licking balls. Did your friends steer clear of you because you licked their balls dry? I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.

Now you’re not even 'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive. Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.

You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant.

26/06 21:39:23

anon wrote:

To all,

Sorry guys, I am in a bad mood and just wanted to read some articles and comment but when I saw this, I guess my anger got the better of me.

But I certainly am not retracting what I said.

Cheers.

26/06 21:42:41

cruzeiro wrote:

woooh anon,
Reign it in man!
Josh is the guy who freaked out and threatened me for mentioning the word "towelhead" (he claims to be the Punjab variant)..... now you called him shithead!
Don't flatter him lah .....

26/06 21:47:02

anon wrote:

cruz,

LOL. If that prick claims to be the Punjab variant, then you are indeed spot on .... he must be a towelhead .... only difference is he must be a dickhead towelhead.
It's okay lah, let me flatter him more.
People like him adore flattery.

This mongrel must be an outcast in the Punjabi society. Must be living in seclusion, ostracized by his own community.

Cheers.

26/06 22:14:31



josh wrote:

fellow bastard( anon),

I made a simple comment, just a personal observation of what happening , here is what the replies I got from u,

pathetic pariahs
shithead
revealed what is in your head …. if there is any. Garbage in garbage out.
crap,
Shut the fcuk up
damn pusillanimous reprobate
People like you make want to puke.
obsession with licking balls( who was ball lickin again?)(it seems he's
licked their balls dry?
I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.
---wow, ur vry imaginative, reminds me of sum1----

'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive.
Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.
You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant
-----dunno where all this came from?---

and certainly, ur proud of what u said
''But I certainly am not retracting what I said.''

repeat that to ur mom, I guess she'll be proud too...
'''dickhead towelhead.

This mongrel must be an outcast in the society. Must be living in seclusion, ostracized by his own community.''''

anon, remember. sometime back, u wrote an aticle about some crap.... then I commented something about me
'feeling pretty fucked up after reading, and u r a pretty fcked up guy'
It is something about my sixth sense where I can read ppl very easily, and can get to the the 'inner-self of someone without even actually knowing much abt that someone'... I couldn't explain that that time, but my sixth sense was right nevertheless, u've shown ur true self now...I think u have the liberty now to judge ur ownself..u've said everything, there is nothing much left for me to say about you.
anothr thing, I never mentioned and hinted anything abt ur race and background etc... that was what u did, nt me, let me ask u, whos the racist here?

and about me, i'm no one... just less than 2 decades old...
calling me a pariah?... ok fine, its ur opinion, but then glance through ur comments again and compare it with mine....if i'm a pariah, ur then an ultra-pariah
but I think, culturally its obvious who is the pariah here, but that is irrelevant to me...
are u the right person to be talking about race, religion, culture. etc?...like I told u judge urself

ps-anger is no defense for a man's character

27/06 07:39:04


anon wrote:

Gosh josh,

fellow bastard( anon),
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You are a bastard, don’t include me in your category.
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simple comment, just a personal observation
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Hey dickhead, you wrote: josh wrote:
anon =

qualifications-
professional ball-licker in MT
have been continuously lickin RPK balls using various techniques and rhythms
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That is your version of SIMPLE comment? Just a personal observation?

You retard, that’s a personal attack fool. Don’t you know the difference? What a mutt.
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and certainly, ur proud of what u said
''But I certainly am not retracting what I said.''

repeat that to ur mom, I guess she'll be proud too...
'''dickhead towelhead.
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Now you have stooped even lower, your head in in the abyss dickhead or should I say towel head.
You have resorted to bringing in mothers!

Remove that towel on your thick skull and you might just see some semblance of your crap that you write.

Have you been deprived? You poor soul, your momma must have kicked you in your arse when you were trying to lick her too. One too many she must have said. Or perhaps she liked it, who knows.
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It is something about my sixth sense where I can read ppl very easily, and can get to the the 'inner-self of someone without even actually knowing much abt that someone'...
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Now we have an licker with sixth sense. Take your ‘sixth’ sense and shove it up your arse because that’s where it came from. You failed to 'read people' miserably.
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and about me, i'm no one... just less than 2 decades old...
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That says all about you doesn’t it? Listen, you juvenile spoilt brat, go to your room and study for your exams. And take that pacifier out of your mouth. That is the root of your problems.
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ps-anger is no defense for a man's character
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You caught me at the wrong time buddy. Otherwise I may have let you go seeing that what you wrote is equivalent to that of a juvenile delinquent.

You low-life licker. Go to your room!

27/06 10:14:07

cruzeiro wrote:

anon,
This guy has a sixth-sense! LOL
I'm really surprised by his "courteous" reply ..... the last he wanted a fight!
From the looks of it, that lashing that you dished out, had the desired effect on this conceited kid.
Civility is misconstrued as a weakness by this brat.
He probably needs a "whipping" each time he misbehaves!
Strange that he would call himself a bastard, though ......

27/06 10:34:35

josh wrote:

anon,u picked and choose only parts of my article to reply

age does not limit wisdom...if ur words reflect ur actions, pity ur kids, they will be living a rotten life
i'm not going to 'layan' u further...i've proven my point, adios

27/06 10:35:17

josh wrote:

dear RPK,

pls attach anon's comments with his article. MT readers deserve to know the other side of him.

27/06 10:41:37

anon wrote:

josh wrote:
anon,u picked and choose only parts of my article to reply

age does not limit wisdom...if ur words reflect ur actions, pity ur kids, they will be living a rotten life
i'm not going to 'layan' u further...i've proven my point, adios
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Yeah run like the pariah dog that you are you little twirp.

Don't you listen to good advice?

I gave you one .... take that pacifier out of your mouth then you might just grow up and start thinking more maturely. For you it will take a lot of time but have patience. And don't be too hard on yourself too. Calling yourself a bastard will not get you anywhere dude.

Oh, and do not be delusioned by that so-called sixth sense that you claim to have. You are delusional. Get out of it fast before you really believe it and cause problems for others.

What a moronic juvenile.

27/06 10:42:34

anon wrote:

josh wrote:
dear RPK,

pls attach anon's comments with his article. MT readers deserve to know the other side of him.
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LOL What a kid. Then again, your 'sixth' sense must have told you that.

Listen boy, your 'sixth' sense is just your fantasy and the sooner you come out of it, the better it will be for all of us.

Tuning on to Disney Channel too many times.

27/06 10:47:09

cruzeiro wrote:

anon,
I think I'll put up his comment (calling himself a bastard and claiming he has 6th sense) on my blog, so that I can have a good laugh at this moron when I feel down!
His old comments, I don't seem to be able to find ..... he must've deleted them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he deletes these too.

27/06 10:51:39

anon wrote:

hey josh,

From slandering mother to now kids.

You have a huge problems dude.

If you, your mother and your kids ( perhaps you married too soon ) are rotten to the core, doesn't mean it's the same with the others.

Now run along and watch more fantasy stories.

27/06 10:52:44

anon wrote:

cruz,

what a nincompoop he is. Simple comments, observations he says. LOL Writes scandalous remarks, attacks mothers, now kids and runs away.

That's what I should do too, when I am annoyed, just look at his replies and have a good laugh.

Cheers.

27/06 10:55:57

josh wrote:

1.If you have nothing else to say other than crap, I would give you some advice …. Shut the fcuk up you damn pusillanimous reprobate.

2.People like you make want to puke. You seem to have this obsession with licking balls. Did your friends steer clear of you because you licked their balls dry? I guess they ran off because you ventured into licking other tools.

3.Now you’re not even 'qualified' to lick anymore. You went into overdrive. Your friends absconded because of your asinine half-baked, dense, fatuous hollow rock that’s on your shoulder.

4.You vacuous degenerate diabolical deviant.You poor soul, your momma must have kicked you in your arse when you were trying to lick her too. One too many she must have said. Or perhaps she liked it, who knows.
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Dear MT readers,
I hav been accused of watchin Disney Channel because i talked about 'six sense'. This guy here, Mr.Anon, said the above. Can anyone please give me an idea of what channel has he been watching all the time?

27/06 10:56:02

josh wrote:

The reason why I deleted my comments is because I have the courtesy of not hijacking others blog with irrelevant materials

27/06 11:00:53

cruzeiro wrote:

Anon,
Just whip him, buddy - him and his shit sense - whop 'em till his dickhead aches, and he learns to think with his real head.

27/06 11:03:44

Being Human wrote:

Anon, josh,
Take a break lah.
Take some deep breaths, shift your attention to the ceiling and count to 10. seriously..

No point wasting energy engaging in those types of childish filth.
At the end of the day, it will only backfire on yourself, emotionally, physiologically and your health.

27/06 11:12:04

teo siew chin wrote:

Being Human - the full quote is 'have a break, have a kit-kat' hahahaha and Cruzeiro has run out of kit-kat today!!

27/06 11:18:27

cruzeiro wrote:

Okay teo,
you got me there. forgot about kit-kat after reading about some self-proclaimed bastard & towelhead's shit sense!
anon, have a kit-kat (I'll have one too)!

27/06 11:22:35

teo siew chin wrote:

OK LET'S ALL ADJOURN FOR A KIT-KAT!!! no, 2 kit-kats.

27/06 11:25:52

josh wrote:

Sometimes I wonder, is this a political blog, or Malaysian Gay forum masked as a political blog.

The title of the article has arsehole in it, in every other comment is directly or indirectly related to the arsehole e.g. how the Arabs wash their arsehole with sand. People are being racist and flaming each other with their arsehole. And lastly, some people has substituted their brains with their arseholes.
Before this it was freeanwar.com..... no coincidence i guess
Malaysian men here, especially the aged ones, have a very sad,angry life... they beat up small boys(looks like some of them enjoy doing it) and they like arseholes.....
luckily, i'm nt in that category

ps- dear RPK, some Malaysian brothers in mamakspecial.com has opened a thread about the publicity they are getting here. Some of them wants you to share with them some anal-techniques. They think that since you are quite closely linked with Mr.Anwar, you should be highly experienced. I havent checked the site for a long time, I suggest you give them some tips..

27/06 11:36:38

josh wrote:

i think anon is a lady...
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i'll vomitt.. even my dog wouldnt want it

27/06 11:38:08

anon wrote:

cruz,

Ok lah, I think I'll have a kit-kat too, though I don't need one.

No point talking to juvenile shitheads. Sheer waste of energy and time.

Poor kid is trying so hard to gain sympathy with readers in here. LOL

Ok, teo, we shall adjourn for a couple of kit-kats.

LOL

Cheers.

27/06 11:42:07

josh wrote:

they are die hard Mjackson fans
anon=phedophile=cruzeiro

27/06 11:45:52

josh wrote:

cruzeiro,
with some of my 'connected' friends I'm trying my best to locate you...
does the state NS have anything to do with u?

27/06 11:49:36

anon wrote:

Aiyaa,

This mongrel has started his crap again.

josh wrote:
i think anon is a lady...
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i'll vomitt.. even my dog wouldnt want it
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Of course you'll vomit boy. You go for only guys. Your dog must be exhausted with your constant cruising around it's behind. LOL

Boy, I told you to study but you didn't. Now you have all your spelling wrong. Silly boy.

Hey cruz,

we better be behave lah. This kid has some 'connections' LOL

The 'connected' friends are those he rammed from behind.

Okay, okay, I'll have a double kit-kat. Maybe triple as this punk kid will start his tautological tantrums again.

I suggest you do the same cruz. LOL

27/06 11:59:01

anon wrote:

Sometimes I wonder, is this a political blog, or Malaysian Gay forum masked as a political blog.

ps- dear RPK, Some of them wants you to share with them some anal-techniques. They think that since you are quite closely linked with Mr.Anwar, you should be highly experienced.
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Whoa, now this shithead scum is getting out of hand.

No respect for anyone, even the owner of this site.

How did this kid creep into this site baffles me.

I think cruz has a stockpile kit-kats. Pass me some cruz. LOL

27/06 12:11:48

cruzeiro wrote:

RPK wrote,
"Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one"

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Anon,

I think from the opinions expressed by "some people", in MY opinion, the above statement should be rephrased - "Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one. But the ones who think they have 'sixth sense' and make threats, have two - extra large!"

LOL!

27/06 12:25:12

josh wrote:

LAME

27/06 12:33:44

anon wrote:

cruz,

LOL I shall rephrase that .... XXXL. LOL

But I think he made a blunder by defaming RPK in his own blog. There's a mutt for you.

An XXXL mutt.

Cheers.

27/06 12:36:25


Tuesday, 26 June 2007

To menteri and freeway



cruzeiro wrote:

freeway wrote,
as well the cheapest tools of labelling and bashing(cruziero).

=======================

Hey now, take it easy okay - I never
bashed Islam, per se.
I had visited a link given by FFT, and found it truly hilarious ...... (too bad, some people have lost their sense of humour, and have forgotten how to laugh - even if it is at themselves for being silly)
Confirming my suspicions, he took it as an insult to Islam from ME, and not the guys who "did the damage"! So, the humor in it was lost .... and anger had taken over.
I truly cannot understand this justification of the "Rage" that is very much prevalent in Muslim communities.
If you have noticed, none of these sanctimonious "defenders of the faith" would come out boldly to condemn this behaviour.
It is this that I spoke about in my letter to RPK - "The Pathology of Rage" - it is destroying Muslim communities worldwide, and has "isolated" them from other communities worldwide. It has brought about silent disdain from the peaceful, and retribution from the militants. It has bred hatred in the Islamists, and destoyed the Image that the rational ones have built over the years. It is this "hatred" and rebellion against hostility that drives the desire for the fundamentalism of the middle ages to be established for an Islamic Utopia.
If you go back to my posts, it was a "pattern of behaviour" that I had "labelled and bashed" - mind you, I even included christians.
In fact, all I wanted to know was whether such irrational rage is condoned, by those who advertise their verbose religiosity, but seem to know nothing about spirituality.
The problem with you guys is, you get so defensive and paranoid, and think that the whole world is out to screw you people - so much so, you think that everything is about Islam.
No lah, there are some things in this world which don't have to be about Islam.
So when you are free, have a kit-kat and read through what I wrote.
Maybe you'll understand.
BTW, RPK, maybe you can write something about this "rage" thingy, by the various religious groups?
26/06 09:56:10

SKC wrote:

Dear All who disagreed with YM RPK,
Think about it, would it be better to have a really deep look into yourself ? Can you see anything at all ? Who are you ? Where are you heading ? What do you hope and dream about ?
As YM RPK has say this has nothing to do with religion. Think about it.
26/06 10:38:42

SKC wrote:

Dear YM RPK,
You are trying too hard, it is getting the negative effect, relax man, have a break and give them (Us) a break also, this sort of things take time. We cannot mature overnight, I might not even see this maturity, sign.......
But Hey ! life goes on.
Never stop trying, for you have done what many has fail to do and even some very powerfull men has given up on.
26/06 10:44:30

FrenchFriedTacos wrote:

cruzeiro said:
Confirming my suspicions, he took it as an insult to Islam from ME, and not the guys who "did the damage"! So, the humor in it was lost .... and anger had taken over.
I truly cannot understand this justification of the "Rage" that is very much prevalent in Muslim communities.
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How dare you make fun of "Rage"?

Did you not know, it is one of the new "pillars" of the modern-day practice of Islam.

The more Rage you exhibit, the more Islamic you are perceived as being.

Which is why even locally, we are seeing small but loaded examples of peacock-feather-fluffing games of oneupmanship in terms of Rage between UMNO and PAS. On the PAS side of the ring, they take to the streets for every little reason and scream Allahu Akhbar until their brown faces turn purple and threaten "Death to [enter Muslim bogeyman of the day]!" On the UMNO side of the ring, you can see keris waving, unsheathing and inserting, and also the phenomenal ac of Rage by one son-in-law who made a monkey of himself to get Condi Rice's attention while she was on official visit to Malaysia.

Raging is the new Islamic cool. If you ain't ragin', then you're failin'.
26/06 11:00:52

cruzeiro wrote:

Raging is the new Islamic cool. If you ain't ragin', then you're failin'.

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LOL.
26/06 11:06:41

menteri wrote:

Cruzeiro, FFT & Anon do you think Malay will be better-off if they give up Islam?
26/06 11:20:16

suv wrote:

Hey d1ckheadpotatohead aka fft

What wil u do,if someone is raping u?
26/06 11:42:54

SKC wrote:

Dear menteri,
That is like poring petrol into a raging fire. (No help at all)
It is not Islam, it is a classical example of someone who has landed him or her self into a situation they are not qualify to handler, therefore the raging, for it hides many short comings and very easy to manipulate.
This raging also plays on the fear in each one of us, almost a marriage make in heaven, what do you expect ? Honor ? Nobility of purpose ?????
26/06 11:44:56

anon wrote:

menteri,

I know if Malays give up the wahhabi version, they will surely be better off.

Then we might have a tolerant Islamic society that respects other religions too.

If they agree to RPK's article then we just might see the way to a more harmonious intermingling of all races.

Ahh, the good ole days when we mixed freely and had loads of fun. That was before the coming of the consciousness of race and religion.

Never did I see Malay girls with tudungs and rempits and khalwats and kafirs and all other kinds of deviant thoughts that have now divided not just the Muslims against the non-Muslims but also Muslims against Muslims too.

Sometimes I like to dream la, cannot ah?

Cheers.
26/06 11:44:58

suv wrote:

The shallowness and kebodohan of fft and his stooges r amazing.Tau cakap ingerisu bukan bermakna pandai dlm segala galanya.Aah,not surprisningly buffons like them r still blablaing here,and not xcersing thier supreme intelleck in some cutting edge technology in the the West.
26/06 11:48:26

SKC wrote:

Dear Anon,
Dreaming is good, I still remember we (a whole group of all races) use to sing late into the night on an open field watching the stars go by. Ahhh, the power of dreams.
26/06 11:52:01

anon wrote:

Oops, I forgot ....

I have a dream.

Cheers to all the raging bulls.

cruz, even with all this new contorted Islamic versions, I still am able to laugh - at them.

Laughter is the best medicine. Like you said, a lot have forgotten how to laugh as they have exhausted their energy trying so hard to prove that they are the New Age Messiahs with a panacea to cure the world and make it a 'clean' by eliminating kafirs, be it Hindus, Christians, Buddhists and all other religions of the world.

Cheers.
26/06 11:59:22

anon wrote:

SKC,

You are right of couse. But sad la when you have to come back to earth again and deal with realities.

I too was speaking about my friends, of mixed races having a great time.

What the heck happened? We were all so close and sat and quarreled and laughed together.

Cheers.
26/06 12:04:47

cruzeiro wrote:

menteri wrote:
Cruzeiro, FFT & Anon do you think Malay will be better-off if they give up Islam?
===================
Dear menteri,
I believe you have asked the wrong question. It would've been better had you asked, "Would Malays be better off if they stopped trying too hard to recreate their identity thru religiosity (as opposed to spirituality)?".
Anyway, I'll give you an answer based on what I perceive which may not necessarily be accurate.
The Malay Identity has been corrupted and partly destroyed by "arabisation" as RPK had mentioned.Remember, Islam and Arab culture are very different.
If arabisation is what you would qualify as Islam, by all means - they'd definitely be better off without it.
However, they would be no better off should they adopt christianity, and try to practice "white man" culture, or adopt hinduism and practice indian culture. Same goes for every other religion and the dominant culture practicing it.
The one major factor that has contributed to the corruption of Islam, is the arab struggle for self determination, and it's humiliation as a result of foreign domination - aka today as the "Palestian Cause".
Violent "Successes" by these terrorists/ fighters are misrepresented as achievements of Islamic doctrine!
This can be seen and heard on Malaysian and pro-palestinian media - children and women who become suicide bombers killing innocents, are described as "pejuang berani mati" lending it glory!
These arabs have successfully hijacked Islam as the rallying call to create a "palestinian state" and made it an "Islamic Cause" - and from their logic, if you're not with us, you're against us.
Bear in mind that the two have nothing in common - and yet, this violent and intolerant culture has creeped into Islam (therefore, as FFT says - it's the new "Islamic Cool").
"Malays" and Muslims worldwide should learn to look at the Palestinian conflict as a political struggle for land, power and wealth, rather than an Islamic struggle.
I hope you are clear.
26/06 12:21:44

cruzeiro wrote:

Oh Anon,
I recently decided to publish all my postings and all postings relevant to my comments from MT in my blog.
RPK, hope your comments aren't "copyrighted" you're there too where relevant.
Of course not all thots are published to avoid problems ......
those who want their comments deleted, pls let me know.
To all you guys who wish to thrash me, you too are welcome to

http://cruzinthots.blogspot...
26/06 13:15:51

anon wrote:

cruz bro,

What a coincidence. I too was about to publish all my articles instead of keeping them in draft.

Last time I went in, I saw about 12 in the draft. I wrote the truth and why should I not publish it?

I shall go in there and see what I wish to publish.

In case, some in here and elsewhere need to read about The Untouchables and posts like that.

I wanted to post them as I see quite a few in here do not seem to be aware that there are good non-Muslims too.

When I see and read comments here that seem sanctimonious, all the more I want to publish some of my articles.

So, to all who wish to read and pass comments, be my guest.

http//anonpartisan.blogspot.com

Especially the articles sent to RPK.
26/06 13:27:44

anon wrote:

sagaladoola,

Sorry for the delay but this is address. Happy reading.

Cheers.
26/06 13:28:57

temenggong wrote:

Islam (as it is known and practised today aka Arab Batu Religion) is a prison. It is an enslavement policy. It makes dhimmis of muslims.

Slaves don't think but just follow. They have submitted, to enslavement.
26/06 13:38:47

FrenchFriedTacos wrote:

suv wrote:
Hey d1ckheadpotatohead aka fft
What wil u do,if someone is raping u?
-----------------------------------------

I'll stop them, hand them a tenner, and send them to rape you.
26/06 14:21:38

FrenchFriedTacos wrote:

menteri wrote:
Cruzeiro, FFT & Anon do you think Malay will be better-off if they give up Islam?
------------------------------------------

Let me put it this way:

Malays will be better off if they know what Islam IS in the first place.
26/06 14:22:51

menteri wrote:

Anon :
I know if Malays give up the wahhabi version, they will surely be better off.

All Malays are wahhabi, Instead of wahhabi, what are the alternative?

Don't destroy the broken vessel unless you can replace it with a good one.

Dear Anon, you are unintentionally playing hit & run games despite your writing reflects how you care for others.

To the real people, What lies behind them and what lies ahead of them are tiny matters compared to what lives within them.

Perhaps living within the lie is better off while everybody is not ready for the truth as suggested in this article.

Cruzeiro is not even convinced that christianity, hinduism.... can be of any help.

So how?
26/06 14:32:58

cruzeiro wrote:

menteri wrote:
Cruzeiro is not even convinced that christianity, hinduism.... can be of any help.
=================
Menteri,
I never said any faith won't be of any help.
don't twist my words - I said, that it wouldn't help only if you chose to ape the dominant culture of the faith not the faith/ theology/ philosophy per se.
Pls read it again if you must.
26/06 14:39:42

anon wrote:

menteri wrote:
Anon :All Malays are wahhabi, Instead of wahhabi, what are the alternative?

Don't destroy the broken vessel unless you can replace it with a good one.

Dear Anon, you are unintentionally playing hit & run games despite your writing reflects how you care for others.
----------------------------------------
Dear menteri,

I do not wish to be tautological but do read RPK's article. Looks like you did not make an effort to read it carefully.

By your own admission, you mentioned a broken vessel. That is good. You seem to realize that the vessel is indeed broken. How long do you think that broken vessel will last?

Unintentionally playing hit-and-run games? There lies your failure to understand people.

With regards to religion, I do nor play games, unintentionally or otherwise. Then again, I do not expect you to understand me as a lot in here share your views about me.

As you said: To the real people, What lies behind them and what lies ahead of them are tiny matters compared to what lives within them.

Very true but .... who are these real people? You? The anti RPKs? People who call non-Muslims kafirs?

If you read RPK's article with an open mind, you will find all the answers. A vessel that is united and strong is presented to you on a silver platter but you fail to recognize it.
26/06 15:06:25

anon wrote:

menteri,

Btw, please do not twist and contort what I said.

I did not say ALL Malays are wahhabis.

If I did, I challenge you to copy paste it here.

Seems like you have a flair for twisting what people say, for reasons best known to you.
26/06 15:11:41

cruzeiro wrote:

who was that who gave that link on shaking hands with jews, shardik was it?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This is what I meant - they have hijacked the religion with their hatred .... they are so foolish in their statements!
26/06 15:12:46

SKC wrote:

Dear menteri,
Relax man, all these couldn't be good for your blood pressure. Please read my posting, posted on 26/06 10:38:42.
I for one would not ask u to give up anything, maybe just looking at it again and judge for yourself if changes needs to be done.
26/06 15:23:39

anon wrote:

menteri,

I know if Malays give up the wahhabi version, they will surely be better off.
----------------------------------------

That is what I said as a follow up on those radicals.

Ok, let me first say ( and I am not giving excuses ) that I meant, these Malays which I did not insert. I should have and then you would be clear of what I meant.

I thought I made myself clear earlier on moderate Malays and the ones on the other side.

If the Malays were offended by that, then I sincerely apologize. It was not my intention to generalize.

Think of it this way menteri. My Abah is also a Malay. Do you really believe that I would say that and mean ALL Malays? Which would mean even Abah who is certainly not a wahhabi.

If I do say ALL Malays, it would mean RPK too who is certainly not a wahhabi too.

There are other Malays here too who do not subscribe to the wahhabi version of Islam.

I shall be very careful when I reply you henceforth as you are rather hasty jumping to conclusions.

You too have my apology if you thought I meant ALL Malays.
26/06 15:26:44

menteri wrote:

cruzeiro :
However, they would be no better off should they adopt christianity, and try to practice "white man" culture, or adopt hinduism and practice indian culture. Same goes for every other religion and the dominant culture practicing it...

I never said any faith won't be of any help...

Menteri :
May be other faith will help?
Pls forgive me for my ignorant, I don't read btw lines but you are extremely good at writing btw lines.

FFT:
Let me put it this way:

Malays will be better off if they know what Islam IS in the first place.

Menteri :
Hmm.. It does make some sense. Ya..a bit of self clarification and enlightenment can be good.

But I don't think this dream will come true....
26/06 15:44:12

anon wrote:

menteri,

Let me make it easier for you to understand.

I said:

I know if Malays give up the wahhabi version, they will surely be better off.
----------------------------------------

I shall rephrase it .... if the Malays give up the wahhabi version .... simply means the Malays who subscribe to the wahhabi version of Islam .... and certainly not the rest of the Malays.

I hope you understand now. Look for the semantics of the language please.

Peace.
26/06 15:44:25

anon wrote:

cruz,

I do hope all Malaysians watch that Shaking hands with the Jews along with the replies.

It would be nice to know how many agree with those pitiful people.

Cheers.
26/06 16:19:52

cruzeiro wrote:

Losing My Religion
R.E.M.

Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream
26/06 17:18:32

cruzeiro wrote:

menteri,

that was for you ....
26/06 17:27:39

Reply to menteri: Malays better without Islam?



cruzeiro wrote:

menteri wrote:
Cruzeiro, FFT & Anon do you think Malay will be better-off if they give up Islam?
===================
Dear menteri,
I believe you have asked the wrong question. It would've been better had you asked, "Would Malays be better off if they stopped trying too hard to recreate their identity thru religiosity (as opposed to spirituality)?".
Anyway, I'll give you an answer based on what I perceive which may not necessarily be accurate.
The Malay Identity has been corrupted and partly destroyed by "arabisation" as RPK had mentioned.Remember, Islam and Arab culture are very different.
If arabisation is what you would qualify as Islam, by all means - they'd definitely be better off without it.
However, they would be no better off should they adopt christianity, and try to practice "white man" culture, or adopt hinduism and practice indian culture. Same goes for every other religion and the dominant culture practicing it.
The one major factor that has contributed to the corruption of Islam, is the arab struggle for self determination, and it's humiliation as a result of foreign domination - aka today as the "Palestian Cause".
Violent "Successes" by these terrorists/ fighters are misrepresented as achievements of Islamic doctrine!
This can be seen and heard on Malaysian and pro-palestinian media - children and women who become suicide bombers killing innocents, are described as "pejuang berani mati" lending it glory!
These arabs have successfully hijacked Islam as the rallying call to create a "palestinian state" and made it an "Islamic Cause" - and from their logic, if you're not with us, you're against us.
Bear in mind that the two have nothing in common - and yet, this violent and intolerant culture has creeped into Islam (therefore, as FFT says - it's the new "Islamic Cool").
"Malays" and Muslims worldwide should learn to look at the Palestinian conflict as a political struggle for land, power and wealth, rather than an Islamic struggle.
I hope you are clear.
26/06 12:21:44


menteri wrote:

Cruzeiro, FFT & Anon do you think Malay will be better-off if they give up Islam?

anon wrote:

Oops, I forgot ....

I have a dream.

Cheers to all the raging bulls.

cruz, even with all this new contorted Islamic versions, I still am able to laugh - at them.

Laughter is the best medicine. Like you said, a lot have forgotten how to laugh as they have exhausted their energy trying so hard to prove that they are the New Age Messiahs with a panacea to cure the world and make it a 'clean' by eliminating kafirs, be it Hindus, Christians, Buddhists and all other religions of the world.

Cheers.




FFT's response



FrenchFriedTacos wrote:

cruzeiro said:
Confirming my suspicions, he took it as an insult to Islam from ME, and not the guys who "did the damage"! So, the humor in it was lost .... and anger had taken over.
I truly cannot understand this justification of the "Rage" that is very much prevalent in Muslim communities.
-------------------------------------------

How dare you make fun of "Rage"?

Did you not know, it is one of the new "pillars" of the modern-day practice of Islam.

The more Rage you exhibit, the more Islamic you are perceived as being.

Which is why even locally, we are seeing small but loaded examples of peacock-feather-fluffing games of oneupmanship in terms of Rage between UMNO and PAS. On the PAS side of the ring, they take to the streets for every little reason and scream Allahu Akhbar until their brown faces turn purple and threaten "Death to [enter Muslim bogeyman of the day]!" On the UMNO side of the ring, you can see keris waving, unsheathing and inserting, and also the phenomenal ac of Rage by one son-in-law who made a monkey of himself to get Condi Rice's attention while she was on official visit to Malaysia.

Raging is the new Islamic cool. If you ain't ragin', then you're failin'.
26/06 11:00:52

Islam Bashing? My response



freewaay wrote:

OK gorshan, you got our respect, no one here is brave enough to ridicule your religion, but the exception of Islam, we're being attack from all sides and being argued using state of the art scientific theory(beinghuman), as well the cheapest tools of labelling and bashing(cruziero). But don't worry, Islam is dynamic enough to withstand this challenge.

Thanks.

cruzeiro wrote:

freeway wrote,
as well the cheapest tools of labelling and bashing(cruziero).

=======================

Hey now, take it easy okay - I never
bashed Islam, per se.
I had visited a link given by FFT, and found it truly hilarious ...... (too bad, some people have lost their sense of humour, and have forgotten how to laugh - even if it is at themselves for being silly)
Confirming my suspicions, he took it as an insult to Islam from ME, and not the guys who "did the damage"! So, the humor in it was lost .... and anger had taken over.
I truly cannot understand this justification of the "Rage" that is very much prevalent in Muslim communities.
If you have noticed, none of these sanctimonious "defenders of the faith" would come out boldly to condemn this behaviour.
It is this that I spoke about in my letter to RPK - "The Pathology of Rage" - it is destroying Muslim communities worldwide, and has "isolated" them from other communities worldwide. It has brought about silent disdain from the peaceful, and retribution from the militants. It has bred hatred in the Islamists, and destoyed the Image that the rational ones have built over the years. It is this "hatred" and rebellion against hostility that drives the desire for the fundamentalism of the middle ages to be established for an Islamic Utopia.
If you go back to my posts, it was a "pattern of behaviour" that I had "labelled and bashed" - mind you, I even included christians.
In fact, all I wanted to know was whether such irrational rage is condoned, by those who advertise their verbose religiosity, but seem to know nothing about spirituality.
The problem with you guys is, you get so defensive and paranoid, and think that the whole world is out to screw you people - so much so, you think that everything is about Islam.
No lah, there are some things in this world which don't have to be about Islam.
So when you are free, have a kit-kat and read through what I wrote.
Maybe you'll understand.
BTW, RPK, maybe you can write something about this "rage" thingy, by the various religious groups?
26/06 09:56:10

Sunday, 24 June 2007

Stranger than Fiction



Some time back, teo sew chin, a blogger had passed a remark, " ..... only you would laugh at death", or something like that.
Little did he know how true those words were.
I had long ago, lost this "fear of death" thingy ..... today, it is more of "respect for life", that actually drives me.

When I had passed out of Med-school, I strangely felt a little "out of place" around my class mates/ colleagues who were "brimming with a sense of achievement" - I somehow couldn't think like them. In fact, I felt "small", thinking of the years ahead, and the prospect of having the responsibility in determining the survival of real people/ human beings.
It was probably all those years of "soul-searching" during my student days that made me think and feel quite "different".
When I had finished my housemanship, I still felt inadequate despite the horrendous calls and long hours of work (once, during the "coxsackie" epidemic - after 72 hrs at a stretch, I slept standing during rounds with Prof. Husin - of course, I got punished for it!).
Despite the fact that I was offered a place at a small hospital with relaxed work, I opted to be transfered to JB hospital, which was grossly understaffed, and notorious for overwork! All becos I just needed to know more about handling illnesses.
When I moved to the medical & emergency postings, I really learnt what it was all about - the "YYYYESSSS" feeling of elation, when you've really saved a life becos you made the right diagnosis and all the right calls. (Of course, the frustration of failure is very humbling - especially during "mortality meetings" - when we take stock, and discuss on what might have been should we have made different calls at that point in time, with the luxury of hindsight.)
Nope - I never felt like "god", but the feeling was close (what a boost for the ego!).
It was then that I knew that what I had learnt, was all worth it.
To me that was my "graduation" and my "convocation".
I really thank God, that never once did I panic, although I was scared shitless (although keeping a calm demeanor outside) on numerous occasions with my heart pounding at 160/min!
Although, I simply loved the work in the public sector (being a treasure trove of knowledge), sadly, I had to quit due to disillusionment with the "system".

Having stared at death in the face for years, having brought life back into these guys, somehow the fear of death is diminished.

I have always been so taken up by children, who face death with a calmness that is rarely seen in adults. While working in the Haematology ward with leukemic patients, it is really heartbreaking at times to see children suffer.
One child, no more than 6 years old, once asked me how long she had, while I was doing a spinal tap - she kept insisting on an answer, and I couldn't run in the middle of the procedure! That's when I "magically" started telling a fairy tale I cooked-up on the spot to calm her down.

I concluded after all these experiences, that it was indeed our "attachments" to this world that makes us fear the "hereafter". The fear of losing all that we lived for, all that we loved, all that we have done. A child has no attachments whatsoever, and does not know what death is all about (not that adults know much more) - so the child can still be happy, even on the day before death. Adults on the other hand would brood over death, and probably cry becos he's gonna lose all the beautiful thing that life has to offer, with no opportunity to make it any better.

The sad part is, most adults have very short memories - when they are given a new lease of life, they would initially become a "changed man" and soon revert to what he was, no longer appreciating this gift of life.
Stranger than fiction - the Movie, is really something to think about ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiYFYLRsZ4

This guy comes face-to-face with his destiny, and in the end accepts that it would be inevitable.

How would I have actually reacted to knowing that my death would be inevitable soon?
It was a thought that I had once played in my mind ........ especially when I once thought that I was on my deathbed.
At that moment in time, I was strangely calm.
It was indeed a moment of "awakening" ................ it was almost like I was ready to embrace was was served to me.
At that moment, a lot of walls came tumbling down - all the prejudices, values and ideas that I held for dear life didn't really mean much.
One song that played itself in my head was Losing my Religion by REM - it was to an extent the very sentiment that I felt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vs21ZKrKM

Losing My Religion


Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream


Oh yes, I had my fair share of preachers coming to me and asking me to repent. They even "threatened" hellfire, when I was practically bedridden.
Believe me ..... these guys are real scum of the earth, waiting to pounce on you in your moment of vulnerability.
Initially, I was actually quite diplomatic with these guys, not arguing theology with them. i let them blabber away all their nonsense, until I was "given a choice"!
Holy cow man! These guy, actually decided to play God and give me a choice between heaven and hell! He wouldn't give up despite me having chosen hell, if he could decide!
Since he actually asked for it, with what little energy I had, I decided to play his game - thank goodness he realized that he was trying to fool the wrong person, and sheepishly withdrew by wishing me peace.

These guys who talk about religion never fail to amaze me with their ignorance of Life. They do not understand the concept of love and brotherhood. They are however very good at playing God and instilling fear of the unknown into you.

To me, God lives within me.

I'll never forget what Fr. Walter told me in my time of emotional distress and searching ......

He said, "Do you think you will find God when you come to church regularly? Or is it when you say your prayers? Or is it when you do 'penance' by fasting? No, my man! Go into the world, face the challenges in life, do good to others - then you will find God! The temples, mosques, churches and synagogues are only for fellowship and for the weak who need support. You on the other hand are made for greater things ......"
With that message, he "chased" me out of the church hostels .............

It took me years to realize how true his words were ...............